{"id":7943,"date":"2009-04-26T13:33:34","date_gmt":"2009-04-26T18:33:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/?p=7943"},"modified":"2009-04-26T13:33:34","modified_gmt":"2009-04-26T18:33:34","slug":"new-profile-under-investigation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/?p=7943","title":{"rendered":"New Profile under investigation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Today, after months when we heard nothing further about the investigation, 6 people (one not a member of New Profile) had their privacy invaded, their computers taken, and were called in for investigation<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dorothy Naor, New Profile, <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/newprofile?hl=en\">26 April 2009<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As some of you perhaps have heard, about \u00bd a year ago New Profile learned that it was under investigation.  The charge, if I remember correctly, is that we incite youngsters not to enlist.<\/p>\n<p>The charge is not true.  We do provide space for youngsters to ask questions and to discuss and delve into matters that their contemporaries or family might be unwilling to discuss or that family and friends would have preconceptions about making it uncomfortable or inconvenient to discuss these matters.  One such topic is refusal to enlist, but this is far from being the only topic.  We hope to encourage youngsters to think\u2014an undesirable quality in militaristic countries, where obedience is a foremost criterion.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Again, while we do not tell youngsters not to enlist, we certainly support those who do not: pacifists, those who oppose the occupation, and others.  We inform them of their rights.  And we furnish legal aid when necessary.  The material that we dispense is available on our website, open to all eyes, including those of the authorities.  We do not conceal our views or what we do.  We are open and aboveboard, and do nothing illegal.<\/p>\n<p>Today, after months when we heard nothing further about the investigation, 6 people (one not a member of New Profile) had their privacy invaded, their computers taken, and were called in for investigation.<\/p>\n<p>Eldad below depicts the experience at their house.  Eldad\u2019s closing statement \u201cotherwise a great country\u201d is probably sarcastic.  How, after all, can a \u201cpolice state\u201d be a \u201cgreat country.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>None of us knows, of course, \u2018who is next.\u2019  So if you don\u2019t hear from me for a time, you can pretty much guess why.  But NP will try to update you as events transpire.  If I can\u2019t contact you, someone else undoubtedly will.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is the Police State here already? Part one.<br \/>\nEldad Kisch; April 26, 2009.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At seven in the morning loud knocks on our door. I was barely awake, but Annelien was already in the swimming pool doing her customary 50 laps. In my innocence I thought that this was the refrigerator repair man, a little early in the day, but one has to be grateful for small favors. Our climate is not ideal for keeping the food fresh without the benefit of this technology.<\/p>\n<p>Well, I was mistaken. Four strong policemen asked for Mrs Annelien Kisch. In all honesty I answered that she is not home. No explanation was forthcoming what they wanted of her. But they produced a warrant for a search in our house, in order to impound her computer, and mine too for good measure.<\/p>\n<p>They asked when Annelien will be home, I told them in an hour or so. After a search of the house, not very thorough, but still, they decided that they had waited enough, and left a summons for her to come to the police station. They took our two computers, after signing a receipt.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime we heard that a friend of Annelien, a mother of two, was also rudely awakened at seven, all computers in the house were taken, including that of her 9 year old daughter. She was not allowed to take her child to school, but was directly put in the police van and taken to the police station; she was interrogated until 1 o\u2019clock.<\/p>\n<p>Annelien, a law-abiding citizen came to the police station, after finishing some things at home. The lawyer of her organization, New Profile, had been alarmed and had rushed to the police station, but she was not allowed to be present at the interrogation. At around two I was called that I could take Annelien home after signing an agreement that she would not contact her political friends for 30 days. My computer was released. I have no way of knowing whether the contents were copied or the whole thing was a farce.<\/p>\n<p>Some explanations are called for. New Profile has been active in defending conscientious objectors to military service and in assisting soldiers refusing to serve in the occupied territories, legally and even paying for the upkeep of their families while they served time in jail. NP is not making any propaganda for doing these things, but will encourage youngsters to think for themselves, by pointing out what the occupation means on a day to day basis. This is not appreciated in all quarters.<\/p>\n<p>Why now? An investigation has been threatened over half a year ago. Now we have a new rightist government that must show that something is done to improve the morale of the army and that they will stand by idly while young men \u2018shirk their duty\u2019. I can think of some religious boys who shirk their duty, but that is acceptable.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I do not like being awakened at seven in the morning by four policemen. It makes me nervous. I feel very unhappy without my computer (not knowing that it would be returned so soon; but then I do not know very well were all the cables go to make the think work again).<\/p>\n<p>I write this in haste before anything else happens.<\/p>\n<p>In all honesty I must add that the policemen were polite, and the interrogation of Annelien was fair.<\/p>\n<p>Otherwise a great country.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today, after months when we heard nothing further about the investigation, 6 people (one not a member of New Profile) had their privacy invaded, their computers taken, and were called in for investigation. 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