{"id":14625,"date":"2010-08-23T12:13:06","date_gmt":"2010-08-23T18:13:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/?p=14625"},"modified":"2010-08-23T12:13:06","modified_gmt":"2010-08-23T18:13:06","slug":"mazin-qumsiyeh-viva-viva-negotiations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/?p=14625","title":{"rendered":"Mazin Qumsiyeh: Viva, Viva Negotiations!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Mazin Qumsiyeh<br \/>\n23 August 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Returning from the Friday demonstration in Al-Walaja in unbearable heat (new video at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8pftDUGV9RY\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8pftDUGV9RY<\/a>)  we note that the talks about the talks about the peace talks are to resume in  Washington September 2nd. \u00a0The Obama administration decided not to spend any  political capital challenging the Israeli lobby. In fact the US politicians want  to blunt Republican criticism ahead of midterm elections by chalking out a  diplomatic \u201csuccess\u201d in form if not in substance. \u00a0Direct talks will lead to  more erosion of Palestinian rights especially when conducted in Israeli-occupied  Washington between Abbas whose mandate as president of  the Palestinian bantustan in the West Bank expired  last January and Mr. Netanyahu, a known terrorist and war criminal leading the  most extreme right-wing government in the history of the apartheid state of  Israel.\u00a0\u00a0 I believe most Palestinians (Abbas included)  are neither optimistic nor pleased about this development. But few of us believe  it was necessary for Abbas to yield yet again.\u00a0 Most  (including large segments of Fatah) believe it is a huge mistake that just set  back the real cause for peace. I challenge those who think otherwise to public  debates on the issues.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>An executive committee of the PLO representing various  factions (who get paid through the same system) stamped its approval by a  majority to the decision to go back to direct negotiations (and thus yield to  the US pressure).\u00a0 I would be curious to read any deliberations and hear from  any dissenting voices who voted no (and not just say no to their cadre  members).\u00a0 The fig leaf that is used to save face for the officials going to  fruitless negotiations is this statement from the Quartet:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;The Quartet reaffirms its full commitment to its  previous statements, including in Trieste on 26 June 2009, in New York on 24  September 2009, and its statement in Moscow on 19 March 2010 which provides that  direct, bilateral negotiations that resolve all final status issues should &#8220;lead  to a settlement, negotiated between the parties, that ends the occupation which  began in 1967 and results in the emergence of an independent, democratic, and  viable Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with Israel  and its other neighbors.&#8221; <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Israel already rejected the notion of ending the  occupation but are thrilled with the notion of direct negotiations without  interference or \u201cpreconditions\u201d between the occupier and the occupied.\u00a0 After  all, it takes two to agree and Israel holds all the power and all the cards and  it can dictate what it wants in \u201cdirect, bilateral negotiations\u201d.\u00a0 The simple  question is how TO GET A MODICUM OF Palestinian rights since the quartet even  backed down on the simple demand of \u201csuspending settlement activities\u201d while  negotiations go on (itself a retreat from the road map which requires  dismantling all that was built illegally since 2002)? If you can\u2019t get the  rapist to even suspend the rape for a time, why would your demand only direct  negotiations with his rape victim in a closed room? If we accept the notion that  Netanyahu is restricted by his political coalition from even this small gesture  of a suspension of illegal colonial activities (see Geneva conventions), then  why would we expect that he will be able to offer anything bigger (like  dismantling settlements or sharing Jerusalem, or allowing refugees to reclaim  their land)? If we believe the US and its quartet are now more serious, then how  come nothing was achieved from the indirect negotiations under their tutelage?<\/p>\n<p>The Zionist movement stole 78% of Palestine and does not  believe there is an occupation of the remaining 22%.\u00a0 They already annexed 10%  of the West Bank and also annexed the Golan heights.\u00a0 They already put 500,000  colonial settlers in the best and richest lands in the West Bank.\u00a0 They already  steal 80% of the water from the West Bank.\u00a0 They make billions off of the  occupation and billions more from direct US aid tax-deductible donations from  Zionists around the world.\u00a0 What is the incentive to Israel to bilaterally  negotiate an \u201cend to the occupation that began in 1967\u201d let alone deal with the  more relevant and more significant issue of the ethnic cleansing committed in  1948 and still continuing in places like the Galilee and the Negev?<\/p>\n<p>Initially we heard that Abbas  will never go to the negotiations unless Israel stops building in its colonial  settlements in the 22% of Palestine that some are still dreaming will become a  \u201cstate\u201d.\u00a0 In an interview with CNN after the US announcement of resumption of  negotiations with no preconditions, Saeb Erekat said that he \u201choped\u201d that with the direct  negotiations beginning, that Netanyahu will extend the \u201cmoratorium on building\u201d  in the settlements in the West Bank (supposedly set to expire in September).\u00a0  Today there are nearly 500,000 colonial settlers living in the West Bank and  there was no moratorium worth the hasbara\/propaganda  created about it. So I would like to ask why is he now begging for renewal of a  \u201cmoratorium\u201d that was no moratorium? This is the same Erekat who told us repeatedly that \u00a0the partial moratorium  is a ruse.\u00a0 \u00a0Colonial settlement construction continued and still moves with  speed as we speak. I would love the opportunity to take Mr. Erekat or anyone who has eyes to see around Palestinian  villages and show them what is actually happening on the ground.\u00a0 In my area in  Har Gilo and Har Homa, colonial settlement  building activity did not even take a breather.\u00a0 Actually, there was an  acceleration last month in buildings in Har Gilo (on top of Beit Jala) and in building the wall that will make Al-Walaja a concentration camp pending finally ethnically  cleansing what remains of this village population.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I know all the arguments for going back to  negotiations.\u00a0 They go along these lines: we tried different forms of  resistance, the balance of power is tipped completely to the Israeli side which  is supported by the US (thanks to the Israel lobby), the European governments  are not showing backbone, blah blah blah. \u00a0One high ranking Fatah official said we have nothing  left but negotiations. I am sorry, but if the leaders in Vietnam or Algeria or  South Africa made similar defeatist statements, these countries would never have  achieved their freedoms. If our leaders have lost faith in their cause, they  should step aside and let those who have a positive message lead. \u00a0If we are  going to achieve an emasculated statelet by endless  negotiations with such leaders reaping the rotten fruits falling down from the  tree after 130 years of struggle, then we do not want such statelet.<\/p>\n<p>Leaders should first of all accept responsibility for  their mistakes and level with their own people.\u00a0 The biggest mistake in the past  20 years has been this road of Oslo which ended the search for justice and  reclamation of Palestinian rights to replace it with a road of \u201csecurity for  Israel\u201d (the occupying power), positions and autonomy and an endless  negotiations and \u201cprocess\u201d.\u00a0 The process could\/would somehow(if all Israeli  conditions are met) lead to state that will be less than the state of Zululand.<\/p>\n<p>I could be too harsh in my statements.\u00a0 But should we not  expect expert opinion on issues that are existential? Should we not at least  expect consistency on the part of our supposed leaders who are really not  experts in any area of international law or diplomacy?\u00a0 For example, they told  us repeatedly that the reason for asking for settlement freeze is because as we  negotiate, Israel has made a Palestinian state impossible with continued eating  away what is left of Palestine. Now Palestinians have access to 8.3% of the land  of Historic Palestine and this is shrinking (the Bantustans in the Galilee,  Negev, Gaza and WB).\u00a0 Since Israel continued to build everywhere even after they  announced a \u201cpartial settlement building moratorium\u201d, why do you agree to go  back to negotiations?\u00a0 If Netanyahu and all his ministers say there is never  going to be a compromise on Jerusalem (illegally annexed by Israel according to  International law), how will you force his government to change its mind?\u00a0 And  how will you deal with the fact that Israeli politicians of all stripes say  Palestinian refugees can\u2019t return to their homes and lands and must instead be  settled elsewhere (including the already over-crowded West Bank and Gaza of  which half the population is refugees and displaced persons)?\u00a0 Is compromise now  defined as you can bring any issues to the table of bilateral negotiations to  which the occupiers already said they will just say no?<\/p>\n<p>Our \u201cleaders\u201d knows that not only they had to cave in to  go back to the negotiations but that further concessions are required to  continue to fund their Bantustan economy (and VIP status) from Western donors  and Arab countries beholden to the West.\u00a0 So why do they try to give out the  notion that bilateral negotiations can succeed under such circumstances? If you  can be threatened with a cut-off of aid to go back to fruitless negotiations,  why do we believe that you can resist pressure to cut off aid unless you give up  on Jerusalem or the refugees? Palestinian negotiators already are not allowed to  raise the issue of treatment of Palestinians inside the state of Israel where  Israel is demolishing whole villages.\u00a0 So many further concessions are needed to  maintain the privileges of running the autonomy areas with money from the West  and compliant Arab states?\u00a0 I believe at this stage, three more concessions were  needed: a) to return to endless direct and public negotiations that prop-up the  Israeli government (and could break the increasing isolation of this pariah  state) , b) to retract the very mild measure of boycotting settlement products  and refrain from supporting International investigations into Israeli war crimes  or legal proceedings to hold it accountable, and c) to continue to suppress  local resistance in all its forms.<\/p>\n<p>Some might dispute this and claim that the PA supports  popular resistance (and suppresses armed resistance).\u00a0 But unfortunately the  facts of the last year tell a different story. Could they please come to places  like Beit Sahour, Beit Jala, and Jayyus and explain to the people what had happened to end  the popular resistance in those and dozens of other places? Could they explain  why popular resistance\u00a0 in many places that used to be costly to the occupation  is now ritualized media stunts.\u00a0 Could they meet with people who engage in real  popular resistance regularly and are volunteers and not paid employees of the PA  and ask them what are the challenges they face? The answers would be  scandalous.<\/p>\n<p>I am making three challenges here to all those who will be  negotiating with Israeli politicians. 1)\u00a0 I challenge you to come and tie  yourself to an Israeli bulldozer (or sit in front of one) in an act of civil  disobedience, and 2) I challenge you to convene panels of independent experts  (not those profiting) in every major Palestinian population center to discuss  the direction of Oslo accords and what has transpired in the last 20 years, and  3) based on 1 and 2, speak truth to the people.\u00a0 Much more sacrifices will be  needed and are coming from our people with or without honest leadership. Would  it not be more dignified and more likely to give us freedom if we have to do  without the foreign aid for one or two years?<\/p>\n<p>And sorry, past good deeds 20 years ago do not give ANYONE  the right to give up on Palestinian rights. \u00a0In international law, even duly  elected leaders of occupied people cannot give away their people\u2019s rights.\u00a0 Our  lives are nothing compared to 5,000 years of our people\u2019s history in this land.  \u00a0And even the struggle against Zionism has already lasted 130 year including  life times of many who \u201cnegotiated\u201d.\u00a0 Who now remembers Hassan Dajani who tried to accommodate with the British occupation  because of a balance of power.\u00a0 History will not be kind to those who give-up on  their own people.\u00a0 We the common people, must take matters into our own hands.  \u0648\u0644\u0627 \u064a\u063a\u064a\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647 \u0645\u0627 \u0628\u0642\u0648\u0645 \u062d\u062a\u0649 \u064a\u063a\u064a\u0631\u0648\u0627 \u0645\u0627  \u0628\u0623\u0646\u0641\u0633\u0647\u0645<\/p>\n<p>Confucius added \u201cTo know what is right and not to do it is  the worst cowardice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>==================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Other relevant articles on this  subject<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Peace Talks in the Shadow of Demolitions<\/p>\n<p>While President Barack Obama pressures Palestinians to  re-engage in direct peace talks, and Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu loftily counsels President Mahmoud Abbas not to miss the opportunity, recent demolitions within  the Occupied Palestinian Territory and Israel continue unabated and unaddressed.  According to OCHA, July and August have marked the highest number of demolitions  this year. As of the end of July, OCHA reports Israeli forces have destroyed  over 230 structures effectively displacing and\/or affecting over 1,100  Palestinians, including 400 children since the beginning of 2010.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.badil.org\/en\/press-releases\/135-2010\/2555-press-eng-024\">http:\/\/www.badil.org\/en\/press-releases\/135-2010\/2555-press-eng-024<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Analysis by Israeli Paper Haaretz: Netanyahu has won, for now<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/news\/diplomacy-defense\/analysis-netanyahu-has-won-for-now-1.309294\">http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/news\/diplomacy-defense\/analysis-netanyahu-has-won-for-now-1.309294<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Economic emptiness in Palestine and Israel\u00a0 By Sam Bahour<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thehill.com\/blogs\/congress-blog\/foreign-policy\/115149-economic-emptiness-in-palestine-and-israel-\">http:\/\/thehill.com\/blogs\/congress-blog\/foreign-policy\/115149-economic-emptiness-in-palestine-and-israel-<\/a><\/p>\n<p>RAMADAN KAREEM\u00a0 FROM THE NETANYAHU AND OBAMA  ADMINISTRATIONS by Jeff Halper<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.icahd.org\/?p=5994\">http:\/\/www.icahd.org\/?p=5994<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Palestine: Occupied, Divided, Isolated, Oppressed and  Unaided by Stephen Lendman<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.uruknet.de\/?p=68971\">http:\/\/www.uruknet.de\/?p=68971<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And as always, come visit us in occupied  Palestine\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Mazin Qumsiyeh, PhD<\/p>\n<p>A Bedouin in Cyberspace, a villager at home<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.qumsiyeh.org\/\">http:\/\/www.qumsiyeh.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Professor, Bethlehem and Birzeit  Universities<\/p>\n<p>Chairman of the Board, Palestinian Center for  Rapprochement Between People, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcr.ps\/\">http:\/\/www.pcr.ps<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mazin Qumsiyeh 23 August 2010 Returning from the Friday demonstration in Al-Walaja in unbearable heat (new video at http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8pftDUGV9RY) we note that the talks about the talks about the peace talks are to resume in Washington September 2nd. \u00a0The Obama &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/?p=14625\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14625","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pdXTf-3NT","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14625","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14625"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14625\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14627,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14625\/revisions\/14627"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14625"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14625"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/karmalised.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14625"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}